BRIAN STELTER (HOST): Frank, you wrote this week that turning reporters into enemies -- not just adversaries, but enemies -- is the kind of horrific thing we expect to see in Venezuela or Russia or Cuba, never in the United States of America. Is that where we are? Are we at the point where we have to talk about what it means to have an authoritarian as opposed to a democratic president, treating the press this way? FRANK SESNO: Well, I'm not prepared to fully brand him an authoritarian yet, but he certainly is sounding that way.