Former Trump VP Mike Pence hemmed and and hawed to ABC's Jonathan Karl until he admitted he still may support Trump in the end, even after the former president fueled his supporters to threaten him and his family's safety. THIS WEEK host Jonathan Karl played audio of Trump blaming Pence for his supporters wanting to hang in because he refused to side with Trump's BIG Lie theory and overturn the 2020 election. KARL: Because you heard those chants, that was terrible.