ALI VELSHI (CO-HOST): So, the United States, most definitely, this is just simple math, has a trade surplus with Canada. Let me put it a different way: Canada buys more things from the United States than the United States buys from Canada to the tune of $12.5 billion. STEPHANIE RUHLE (CO-HOST): And this is not being sassy or biased, this is -- VELSHI: Just a fact. RUHLE: This is a fact.